I am grateful to you for the fine text that you have been willing (dared!) Heaven and earth are full of your glory. It didn’t make any difference to them that vocalizing capitalized words is not comprehensible. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. He entered religious life in 1945, and was ordained in 1958, and so had a long experience of the Latin text. For me, the ritual text is one which is spoken, or rather performed by a bodied speaker. German retains the capitalization of all nouns. His Spirit is with us. Actually, I appreciate the impersonality angle. The theology of retrenchment needs to be balanced with the genuine needs of the current age. Lift up your hearts. Holy, Holy (The “Sanctus”, based on the praise of the seraphim in Isa 6:3): All: Holy, holy, holy Lord, God of power and might, Heaven and earth are full of your glory. The priest used Sundays in OT VIII this weekend. Feedback thus far suggests to me at least that a future revision of the English Missal may have to address these issues. . Blessed are you, gracious God, creator of the universe and giver of life. Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God of hosts. In the Eucharist, the part of the prayer that bears the term has historically been viewed both as a blessing and consecration of the elements of bread and wine. Eucharistic Prayer For Priests . Only then a reader of the score shall not be found. In 2 Kings 22:14, she is identified as a prophetess and … to ‘inanimate’ but I am not an expert! This prayer is a new composition which was written to provide some complementary images. I guess having the prayer be rarely used any more is much better than a dynamic version. After communion, the priest goes back up to the altar to purify the sacred vessels. 1.1 The text; 1.2 Sorted list; 2 In the Nobis quoque. I’m celebrating my 40th anniversary as a priest today and am grateful for so many blessings. The prayer is also called The Great Thanksgiving, the anaphora, the prayer of consecration, and the canon of the Mass. The prayer must be considered in its totality. God’s Spirit is with us. — Amen. I am not one of these.The new wording sounds like they took my mother’s Missal translation from the 1940s and made this be our new Mass. P. Borella, Il Canon missae ambrosiano, «Ambrosius», 1954, pp. Those who have enlisted the “Edomites” of a strident vernacularization to destroy our linguistic heritage have traded the song of the Canon, its ancient folds of knowledge in meter and literary device, for an everlasting but never satisfied desire to cater to the perceived trends of the day. Many thanks. – “Though it provided great security for its proponents, this narrow-minded, non-change reasoning isn’t biblical. Huldah appears towards the end of the Second Book of Kings, in connection with the reforms of King Josiah. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. Then those who most stridently called for vernacularization will realize that Mass “for the people” was in fact an exile with no return. Most people did not have to LISTEN to it, ever. I have never heard EP I used at Mass since the introduction of RM ’11. Bless this offering, we pray, O God. It is right to give thanks and praise. Lift up your hearts We lift them up to the Lord. The new translation treats Lit Auth in so cavalier a fashion that there can be few who support both. And I’m hoping that a discussion of the Roman Canon won’t dwindle into a discussion of capital letters. Eucharistic Prayer C is the “Star Wars” prayer and is decidedly creation-focused (and, everyone should note, is far and away the most penitential of the four), and Eucharistic Prayer D is the lengthiest and is generally associated with the holiest of our holidays or with occasions of Christian unity. (Through Christ our Lord, Amen. And also with you. Syntax that conveys sobriety, gravitas and other similar qualities in Latin can result in very different effects (such as prissy and effete) when too ham-fistedly rendered in English. (The very opposite of ‘Twitterese’). Your email address will not be published. ((John McKenna, The Eucharistic Epiclesis (Second Edition. Doing so would be like removing a puzzle piece, staring at the intricacy of the piece removed, and then wondering why the puzzle doesn’t “work”. The English of 1973 simply obscured the details of the Latin. Eucharistic Prayer IV, however, should always be used with the preface printed above.) Yesterday. 1) Eucharistic Prayer I, i.e. Celebrating the Grace of God, originating with Bishop Brian Carrel, eschewed the use of “Blessed is he…” (words unpopular for some in the Eucharistic Prayer). Music for Eucharistic Prayers. Eucharistic PrayEr i (thE roman canon) 83. What is good ritual text is one which makes the praying body present. I do think that translation has reached a limit of sorts. I’ll also quickly add that, compared to 2011, your substitutions tend to add syllables and verbal complexity: e.g. But little more. We can get fancy, sure, but that’s a really good starting point for English. The reforms of Vatican II are doomed if they are not grafted into the unbroken tradition of worship. “reverence” for “humble”, “condemnation” for “damnation”, “forgiveness” for “pardon”. It is indeed right, it is our duty and our joy, at all times and in all places to give you thanks and praise, Underlying this regular pattern is the conviction that ‘there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus’ (1 Tim 2:5). 1) Eucharistic Prayer I, i.e. What follows is just one attempt. And for all who will receive the most holy body and blood of your Son in this communion at the altar, let them be filled with all the blessings and gifts of heaven. It comes six lines from the end [Per quem haec omnia, Domine, ….”]. Let me lay out my assumptions first. I’m a skeptic on many of these points. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER D. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER E 'Long Prefaces' for use with Eucharistic Prayer E. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER F Kind of like how a stole might have images on it that are for the benefit of the one wearing it, despite not being visible to others once the chasuble or dalmatic is placed over it. It seems the theology of it, especially what it celebrates and how it forms believers in Christ, can be said in clear and artistic ways today in many vernacular languages. 1. Gnosticism? The first three had taken place in the church’s initial 150 years; the fourth was the Second Vatican Council’s presupposition that there’s no longer a “sacred language” or a “sacred culture.” Swahili is just as sacred as Latin; Chinese culture as sacred as European. And also with you. A bishop, objecting to some liturgical translation proposals, said to a colleague of mine ‘I would never speak like that in my private prayer’. Small thing on Joseph — should be “spouse” rather than “husband” based, apparently, on Mary’s continued state of virginity. We lift them to the Lord. The USCCB has also approved Eucharistic Prayers for Mass with Children. Logical. Long sentences can and should be articulated, with quite significant ‘gaps’ at times. V. Lift up your hearts. Without getting these verbs lost in distracting clauses and phrases (as in the later translations), a dialogic movement is produced between the praying bodies and God. By Admin | November 11, 2009 - 1:47 pm | February 11, 2018 Liturgy Archive. But I do not see anywhere in Scripture directly saying it should be done that way, and the Early Church Fathers seem to say that it must be done by a Eucharistic Prayer instead (for example, Saint Ambrose; De fide ad Gratianum 4.10.125). … Neither way of life is without fault. It would be good if John Robert Francis (#1) could post the 1967 text so that all might see and compare. Through the song of the Canon the Roman Church has heard the rise and fall of empires, the revolution of cultures and the reform of ecclesiastical spheres, the most heinous of human inhumanity towards fellow human beings, and the most profound examples of selflessness. Should this happen, the faithful will be empowered to drink deeply of our liturgical and theological heritage. The prayer is also called The Great Thanksgiving, the anaphora, the prayer of consecration, and the canon of the Mass. Eucharistic Prayer I. Lift up your hearts. It is right to give our thanks and praise. @Jordan Zarembo – comment #21: Celebrant: Let us give thanks unto our Lord God. For through Christ you continue to create all these good things, O Lord. I prefer to follow the 1973 translation, seeing these nouns as datives, so that the clause means ‘grant to (i.e. I have read the text aloud only once. Celebrant Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. Eucharistic prayer 1. What do I mean? The problem is that the authors of the new translation were not masters, but obvious amatuers of liturgical English. I certainly don’t think that liturgical prayer needs to be ‘dumbed down’ or written in a casual style. Now that explanation is a pure guess. @Ian Coleman – comment #44: Eucharistic Prayer 1 from Celebrating Eucharist Chapter 21. I was, though, thinking that ‘victim’ offers a stronger apposition to ‘bread’ and ‘cup’ (I note your use of ‘cup’ as opposed to ‘chalice’) as it is ‘animate’ app. EUCHARISTIC PRAYER 1. Whenever you drink it, do this for the remembrance of me.”. It is right to give our thanks and praise. Lift up your hearts. Amen. Jordan, is your heart never moved to greater devotion by hearing some phrase in the eucharistic prayer (even if you’ve heard it a thousand times before)? Thank you for that.I think on the whole I’d be easier with ‘sacrifice’ than’victim’ which has a certain ‘weighting’ in modern English. 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